Are You A Christian or Churchian?

I took this off of Hubpages.  I did not bring the comments here because mot of them were very nasty.

I came out of the church and am not of that crowd anymore.  I read that Bible by myself and I also learned about other beliefs and also, the most important part, what other books that were ommitted from the Bible said.  I did learn about Jesus's history, his heritage and also that he did not exist, but the writing that are in the Bible are also the same thoughts that others who came before him said.

Here is my post that I had on Hubpages....

Teaching Out of the Bible, Really?

The beginning of the world and Adam and Eve and the creations stories, in the bible was stolen. Did you know that?

The stories of a virgin giving birth to a holy child are in many cultures and not just Christianity.  Did you know that?

When you steal and then tell everyone that you are right and they are wrong and they are demonic...that goes against the very Ten Commandments...IN THE BIBLE. One is thou shalt not steal and the other is thou shalt not bear false witness.  Personally, I may not like your innards, but that does not mean that I cannot like you as a person.  That also goes to say that if I do not like your innards that I cannot like you period.  That is what some hard-core Christians are saying and trying to make others believe.  That is total nonsense.

Those Ten Commandments are very similar to the commandments or laws in Egypt in those days.  Who had them first….Moses or the Pharaohs?  Does it really matter?

Adversary is what Satan is supposed to be and the meaning of that is not evil at all. Did you know that?

What is evil? 

It is simply something that we do not know of or is unknown to us. Is not that the reason Jesus told us to know thy enemy? At the very moment that you go against the Ten Commandments you go against the scriptures. Did you not know this?

Who said that to look at God would kill a man? 

Did they really mean literally or did they mean that in another sense?

If you read the bible it also tells you that not everything is written in it. Did you know that?

What does it mean to you when Jesus states very clearly that the Kingdom of God is within you?

What is all in God's kingdom?

.....Satan, Jesus, me, you and heaven and hell are all in his kingdom. When you deviate from that and tell everyone that the kingdom is outside of you---then you are going against scripture and teaching out of the bible.  This is what I am being accused of but take a look in the mirror at just what you are doing.

Who taught you how to read that bible so that it says that anything not in it is false or a lie? Why are they using scare-tactics when it clearly states that not everything is in there? Why is the word of Jesus taken so lightly over the rest of the bible when it was he who is the Christian leader...or was/is he?

Why is it that women are omitted from leadership in the church when Jesus himself was in love with a High Priestess? If you say that he wasn't then you have been lied too.

Who do you trust and have faith in? 

According to Jesus you trust yourself and have faith in yourself because if you do not have faith and trust in yourself then you are a non-believer. Build their self-esteem up, not tear it down.  That is what a Minister, Pastor, Rabi, Priest is supposed to do.  That is the reason that Jesus came and why everyone is not a sinner.  In that Bible it does state that and if you do not believe that then you are teaching out of the Bible.

When you come away from the church, that Jesus spoke against.  (Yes he did) he also told us not to do the traditions and all the fluff that church teaches us, you will see things differently. I never said Jesus's teachings were false. The Old Testament was about a certain peoples, not everyone. I am not a Jew, nor a Levite and science and medical research has come far from that. Jesus even said in that bible that we would do greater things than he could ever do. Why do you not believe this and that we have come so far with regards to life situations and health and yet stay in the centuries before Jesus? That boggles the mind.

You failed to answer my question: Who said the bible was the word of God? 

Did a man say it? 

A Man did say it. Who was the man and why would he say that? 

What about women? 

Why cannot they say it?

About the scripture stuff, I do not even go there anymore because it is futile. It eventually proves nothing and just makes people mad and frustrated.

You really think that I believe that there is a flaw to everything in the Bible???? What is your reasoning behind that?

What was the reasoning behind making the bible? Was it really to tell others about God or was there some other motive? Who chose those few clergy that put the letters and stories together from a million stories and letter....some that are still being found? Why did they stop when they did and tell us that anything added or taken away would make it all void?

I am not telling you that the bible is false and irrelevant, just saying that there is lots of history that went into the making of that book and that you should know that and make an informed judgment of it and not believe things blindly. We are not supposed to be robots; else God would have made us so. 

Some have asked me if and why I am trying to take away from their church. I am not doing so. Some have even tried to tell me that I am converting and well that is lame because we are not to convert anyone to anything. Jesus and God are inside of us and we cannot ever leave them and they cannot ever leave us. There are scripture in that bible that says so but I am not going to go there. You know how to read the bible and I am pretty sure that if you look them up you will find them yourself. You are pretty smart.

EGO tells you that you are all powerful and that you control everyone and the world, when Jesus states that The Kingdom Of God is Within you and has mentioned 4 times in that bible that WE ARE GODS. We are, but the first instance is that we cannot be gods. That is the EGO talking.

When you realize the you are GOD and that you make your world with your thoughts and actions and other things, then you sit back and the words come out as Oh My God, what have I done and What am I about to do and what is coming my way from what I have thought a minute ago or a day ago.

That is when you understand what Jesus says about being careful with your thoughts.

So you see this is not about religion or church, but about self and how we treat others and what we get back. Jesus was not a "Christian", God does NOT have a religion, but as we are God we know everything that we do and the outcomes of them...if we pay attention. Everyone already knows all of this because Jesus stated the he put the laws (if we chose to pay attention to them) in our hearts and minds. Those who do not pay attention do have a hell on earth. Believe me with that.  Those are the ones who end up in jail in one way or another.

You see all this and you will most likely push it away because of what man has told you. I can tell you with conviction that I love you and everyone else on the planet because we are all here to learn about ourselves and how WE relate to others that are also here to learn how they relate to others and then there is all those ripples in the pond and that is life. When you change your thoughts and your actions and reactions, everything changes. Be Aware of your thoughts is what Jesus says.

Sorry for the sermon, I guess that is why I was called to be a Reverend that I never really wanted to be in the first place. Oh there is an overseer of sorts but that has no bearing on what we are to learn and how we are to learn it. They only set things up for us and then test us on what we have learned when we go home.

© Debra K. Allen a.k.a Lady Guinevere